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Post by twotimothytwo » Wed May 01, 2019 11:33 am

Behind the Exclusive Brethren by Michael Bachelard
This book is dedicated to those people, both within and outside the Exclusive Brethren, who have suffered, and who suffer now, under the doctrine of separation
Book is about the sect known in Australia and New Zealand as the Exclusive Brethren, and elsewhere variously as the Taylorites and the Raven–Taylor–Hales Brethren, The Jimmies, The Connexional Brethren, and Plymouth Brethren Number 4. They have traditionally resisted adopting a name themselves, but have done so more recently. The most powerful sign of this is that, when they set up their own website at www.theexclusivebrethren.net, they described themselves as The Exclusive Brethren Christian Fellowship
A former Brethren member, Alan Robertson, has written an account of how, as an 11-year-old boy, he was allegedly anally raped by Taylor one night after the Brethren leader had addressed a meeting in Kilmarnock, Scotland, in May 1970. In a vivid account, which was unpublished at the time of
writing, Robertson says that, as he was being raped, Taylor told him he was expressing ‘the highest form of divine love ... a special love, peculiar to
those in Christ’. The alleged rape, and another incident of sexual assault by Taylor the following morning, has left Robertson with post-traumatic
stress disorder, and he has attempted suicide.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l2dirv9t311sp ... l.pdf?dl=0

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Post by twotimothytwo » Fri May 03, 2019 9:54 am

The tragic death of James Ward 2012.
James tragically died alone, in the way many of his friends feared. He had serious alcohol addiction issues. Issues that he felt were compounded by the heartless way he was treated by the peebs. Without doubt he had every reason to feel he was being denied the love of his family, by the strictures of the peebs, it was hard for him to maintain any hope.
James had a successful business (QC Publications) when in fellowship, publishing a car parts price guide. He was feted by the leaders, and considered suitable material to emigrate to strengthen a small position. He fancied San Francisco. I don't know how the move came to not happen. His business was ideally suited to adapt to new technology, a phone app or similar. Due to the peeb prohibition on such stuff, the business slowly died, tho he had acquired a fair bit of capital from it in the meantime.
James liked the ladies, and was withdrawn from because he used his spare time to play away from home. I'm not clear of the exact timing of events after that, but at some point his wife Jenny and children were out of felly and with him, but they all went back. On his own admission to me, his addiction to alcohol played a part in their return to the peebs. James struggled to come to terms with this, and took refuge in a diet of 75% white wine. Previously (while in the peebs) he had been convicted of drink-driving, then nine and a half years later he committed a very serious drink-driving offence, for which he was sentenced to eight months in prison. On his release he was left in a situation where he was mostly at home alone - and soon drinking again. A move to Marbella gave him a break. He could drive again in Spain (by some strange quirk in the Law), his brother Charlie and other friends lived there, and he some good times. But he had relapses when he would drink himself senseless and push away all who tried to help him. Tragically he died of a massive heart attack alone (as he insisted) in his apartment, and was not found til days later.
The story of his burial is another shocking account of continuing peeb insensitivity and unkindness.
http://wikipeebia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=55

Sadly, the Preston Down agreement came to late for James
) No action should be taken in any way to treat vindictively, maliciously or unfairly
persons whether within or outside the community, including those who were within
the community and who are leaving or have left the community. Every care should
be taken to provide for and support the welfare and education of children and young
persons within the community. Where persons seek to leave the community,
reasonable assistance should be afforded to them in terms of support and/or financial
assistance relating to employment or other matters, where they have been dependent
on the community for that support. Reasonable steps should also be taken in these
cases (consistent with and subject to any legal requirements applying to the persons
involved and the human rights of the persons involved) to allow the continuation of
family relationships where a family member has left the community, including
providing access to family members, in particular children. Where a person within
the community dies, the principle of separation allows members of the extended
family of the deceased, including former Brethren, to attend their funeral service. Any
people attending a funeral service (whether from within or outside the community)
should respect the wishes and beliefs of the deceased, behave with dignity and be
treated considerately.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... cision.pdf

Nor has it made much difference since.

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Post by twotimothytwo » Sun May 05, 2019 9:40 pm

A ONE-month driving ban for a businessman who admitted speeding at 110 miles per hour in a blizzard was yesterday branded "pathetic".
Craig Michel led police on a chase for 16 miles as he raced to the Brethren church in Kirkcaldy, Fife, for a service with two children in the back of his people carrier.

Michel - who already had six points on his licence - was banned for just a month at Perth Sheriff Court.

Sheriff Robert McCreadie told Michel, 32, he would not ban him for the normal six-month period because of the effect it would have on his business, the building materials firm Paragon Profiles.

He said: "This was stupid and thoughtless behaviour on your part, given the road conditions I was told of. You had two young children in the car with you.

"I am sure you are aware that is no way to drive in such conditions."

He also fined Michel 750.

Michel, of Perth, was initially clocked by officers travelling at 110mph during a sleetstorm and charged with dangerous driving.
https://www.scotsman.com/news-2-15012/f ... h-1-741176

Who can forget close relative Harold from Hemel Hempstead? Smug, ginger haired man with a clipped 'posh' English accent but a Geordie wife!
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Post by twotimothytwo » Mon May 06, 2019 8:45 am

The National Secular Society has welcomed a new investigation into child protection in religious organisations and settings which have previously been beyond the remit of an official inquiry.

The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) this week announced it would review child protection policies, practices and procedures across a range of religious institutions in England and Wales.

The investigation's remit will include non-conformist Christian denominations, the Jehovah's Witnesses, Baptists, Methodists, Islam, Judaism, Sikhism, Hinduism and Buddhism.

This investigation is separate from the inquiry's ongoing investigations into the Anglican and Roman Catholic churches.

Religious settings such as mosques, synagogues, churches and temples will be within the scope of the inquiry.

Supplementary schools such as Muslim madrassas and Christian Sunday schools and places where children and young people gather in connection with their religious beliefs, including youth groups and camps, will also be investigated.

Since 2012 the NSS has been lobbying for better regulation of out-of-school educational settings, including religious supplementary schools, to improve child safeguarding. However, the government has refused to regulate madrassas and other places of faith tuition despite clear evidence of abuse.

Last year the Department for Education abandoned plans for the compulsory registration of out-of-school education under pressure from faith groups.

More than one in 10 survivors of child sexual abuse (11%) who shared their accounts with the inquiry's Truth Project reported sexual abuse in a religious institution. Of this group, almost a quarter (24%) told the inquiry they were abused in institutions in scope of this new investigation, including those linked to the Jehovah's Witnesses, Baptists, Methodists, Judaism and Islam.

The NSS has for many years highlighted the alarming extent of sexual abuse in religious settings and the failure of religious organisations' response to child abuse. Over the last ten years it has worked to ensure that victims of institutional child abuse have access to secular justice.

As part of this work the NSS responded to a direct approach by IICSA to explain why sexual abuse of minors was more prevalent in religious settings. The society has also performed groundbreaking work on the issue at the UN.

Earlier this week, NSS president Keith Porteous Wood highlighted concerns over a lack of reporting of abuse in closed communities during an intervention at a seminar run by IICSA. He made a plea for new laws to require people in institutions to report child abuse to the secular authorities.

Commenting on the launch of the new investigation, Mr Wood said: "Many minority religious groups form closed communities, and it is in such communities that sexual abuse of minors is both more likely to occur and less likely to be externally reported. Perpetrators escape punishment and continue to offend, but even more important is that victims are at great risk and most have little if any opportunity to bring their abuse to an end.

"They desperately need help and we very much hope that the extension of this inquiry will help achieve that."

A recent equivalent inquiry in Australia found significant abuse in numerous religious settings beyond the Catholic and Anglican churches.

An Australian academic advising that inquiry found especially high incidences of abuse by the Salvation Army, followed by the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Exclusive Brethren.
https://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2019 ... anisations

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Post by twotimothytwo » Sat May 11, 2019 9:02 am

Mr A Thorpe v Oneschool Global and Cottingham Campus (Flt): 1800043/2019
JUDGMENT
The complaints of sex discrimination and age discrimination are withdrawn and are
dismissed.
____________________
Employment Judge Rogerson
25 February 2019
Note - Reasons for the judgment having been given orally at the hearing, written
reasons will not be provided unless a request was made by either party at the hearing
or a written request is presented by either party within 14 days of the sending of this
written record of the decision.
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Post by twotimothytwo » Sun May 12, 2019 10:36 am

Written evidence submitted by Garth Christie (CH 60)

Apology for error made before the Public Administration Select Committee on 30th October 2012

I had the recent privilege of representing the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church before the Public Administration Select Committee in relation to the topic of ‘Regulation of the Charitable Sector and the Charities Act 2006’.

During the course of this Committee hearing I made an error in my statement to you. I unreservedly apologise for this.

I quoted Kenneth Dibble of the Charity Commission and repeated wording that he had used in his letter of refusal to register the Preston Down Trust as a charity and also repeated what he had said earlier in his appearance before the PASC. Whilst the quotations were correct, I repeated them in such a way that gave the impression that they were stated at the same time. This is clearly not the case.
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/c ... O9a_wOFIu8

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Post by twotimothytwo » Sun May 12, 2019 10:39 am

The PBCC are harmful and detrimental to society for the following reasons:

1. They are a one-man dictatorship exercising extreme cult like power over a practically captive membership.
2. Members who fall out with or disagree with, the cult leader, are excommunicated and shunned by all members. Social interaction even with immediate family members is forbidden, causing the break-up of families.
3. They exercise a kind of "Sharia Law" through local kangaroo courts, consisting of so called "priests" backed up by the authority of the cult leader. It is taught that these have higher authority than the Law of the Land.
4. Members are encouraged to report criminal activity by other members to the cult leadership, rather than independently to the police or secular authorities.
5. The extreme penalties of temporary or permanent excommunication are administered arbitrarily by these "priests" without any due process of justice (e.g. advocacy for the accused, impartial witness, right of appeal etc) and with no accountability.
6. The penalties dictated by these kangaroo courts extend far beyond religious consequences, as they involve not just exclusion from the cult's activities, but also permanent termination of any social links with immediate family, including spouse, children, grandchildren etc.
7. They are well aware that this unjust system is profoundly unacceptable in modern society, so have a thorough methodology to hide these activities, and to pass them off as the personal convictions of the victim's families, rather than the coercion of the cult hierarchy.
8. The 2012 presentation to the UK Government Public Affairs Select Committee in connection with the Charity Commission matter was largely a cover-up and included lies and evasiveness. Garth Christie admitted to misleading the committee and the official transcript had to be corrected.
https://publications.parliament.uk/…/cm ... tev/charit
https://publications.parliament.uk/…/cm ... ubadm/76/1
9. The PBCC do not practise many of the rulings imposed on them by the Charity Commission in order for them to retain their charitable status. They can get away with this because there is no practical way to ensure compliance.
10. The repressive, patriarchal, secretive and self-policing system is known to be one of the features common to most of the cults in which child abuse and other forms of sexual, financial and business abuse has been prevalent.
11. Cult members may only work for cult member owned businesses - which are themselves largely subject to control from the cult leadership. Thus, the finances of all members, whether business owners or employees is under cult control, and is used to create modern day servitude with employees trapped without any opportunity for personal ambition, save at the cult's discretion.
12. Non-cult members employed at cult owned businesses receive far lower wages than their PBCC counterparts. This is a breach of the 2010 Equality Act.
13. Women are not permitted to have business positions where they exercise authority over male cult members - thus limiting them to minor roles regardless of ambition or ability. Wives are generally not permitted to work.
14. University attendance is forbidden, as is attendance at non-PBCC schools. Some areas of business related post-graduate study, by correspondence, are permitted, e.g. accounting or business management. However, the role of brethren women in business is strictly limited.
15. Most professional careers are barred by the brethren rules, and nearly all fields of university-level study are prevented, so none of the young people ever undertake advanced study of ancient history, archaeology, astronomy, anthropology, zoology, botany, geology, psychology, sociology, theology, divinity, medicine, biochemistry, genetics, art, architecture, engineering, pharmacology, chemistry, physics, electronics, literature, languages, or even Bible studies. Thus, the children with great potential, of which there are plenty, are prevented from ever fulfilling their potential. This is one of the saddest effects of Exclusive Brethrenism, second only to the breakup of families.
16. Pastoral care, well evidenced in former times, has given way to a commercial "Prosperity gospel" where financial considerations outweigh the needs of the individual.
17. A very public show of visiting disaster areas by the PBCC "Rapid Relief Team" has to be balanced against the awful plight of so many of their former members.
18. Members, typically very naive and trusting, are unwittingly induced to sign business structure agreements, and property agreements containing clauses that keep the business or property in sect hands if the member is excommunicated or decides to leave. Thus, excommunicated members often discover that they have lost not only their families, but their homes and businesses too.

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Post by twotimothytwo » Sun May 12, 2019 12:19 pm

Ex-lecturer settles sect legal battle
A retired academic is facing a huge legal bill after being sued by a Christian sect for breaching it's copyright.

Dr Ian Mackay, a former lecturer at University of Glasgow, settled out of court with two groups linked to the Exclusive Brethren which sued him for £280,000 for attempting to publicise it's membership, activities and rules.

Documents he published included a list of places where members should not go, including the newsagent, cinema, football and cricket matches, bars, restaurants, hotels, firework displays, swimming pools, universities or the zoo.

Dr Mackay, 75, who left the Brethren in the '60's, had been part of an online effort to throw light on the group.

Supporters raised more than £20,000 for legal fees, but his final costs are expected to be more than £50,000

Fundraiser Jill Aebi-Mytton said 'this whole business has put Ian and his family under horrendous strain'

On Friday, both Brethren-linked groups said that the matter had been settled
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oekindv0wpsqc ... YtPYGLTPPA

It should be noted that in 2012, in a Public Administration Selection Committee, Garth Christie of the Exclusive Brethren stated
We do not mind any of the questions. We welcome scrutiny, that is not a problem to us. If any of the members have further questions they would like to send in or approach us about, we welcome it. We have nothing to hide.
And when earlier asked by MP Robert Halfon
Is it not the case that the many hundreds of thousands of pounds you have to spend on legal cases, you could have spent on charitable activities in the community?
Garth Christie replied
Absolutely true.
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/c ... 121030.htm

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Post by twotimothytwo » Mon May 13, 2019 6:52 pm

I was sent for an interview with Bruce Hales, the world leader of the church. He grilled me closely as to my “other way of thinking”. How long had I felt that way for? Had I acted on my feelings physically? I was forced to answer in front of my father and uncle, and felt humiliated. “There’s medication you can go on for these things,” said Hales.

The next day I met with church doctor number one – Roger Kirkpatrick. Kirkpatrick is in his early seventies, is a close relative of Hales, and is widely known for his liberal use of anti-depressants to quell dissenting members of the church. He reportedly once said that “half the Brethren are on anti-depressants, and the other half should be.” (When I left the church, my father, mother and teenage brother were all being medicated.)

Kirkpatrick was vile. I’d been quizzed before, but not like that. What had I done sexually? Who had I done it with? Where did we do it? How many times? Was I penetrating or receiving? Was I more attracted to a hard penis, or a soft penis? Was I sexually attracted to anyone in the church? Was I sexually attracted to the priests? The questions quickly moved from pseudo-medicine to voyeurism. He had been drinking, his face was flushed a faint shade of pink, and a white shirt stretched over an enormous stomach.

I felt violated and sick. I didn’t feel angry with Kirkpatrick at the time though, as he was a revered and respected church leader and I believed he was doing his best to help me. Instead I felt hatred for myself. How could I be such a bad person and do such terrible things? I felt I deserved to have the full wrath of the church meted out to me. All he had done was expose the evil I had been hiding in my thoughts and feelings.

“Homosexuality is institutional,” he said. “But maybe God will help you change.” He was registered in Australia, so told me he couldn’t prescribe any medication for me in New Zealand. However he didn’t think that was a problem, as the only medication he could think of to prescribe was anti-depressants, and I didn’t seem like a “depressed homosexual” to him. I had a strong mind, and I could beat it by myself. I just needed to pray harder.

The following week I cracked and ran away. How was it possibly fair to expect me to endure that kind of mental torment? I had expected them to wave their hands and produce some magical cure, and to have that hope taken away was more than I could bear.

The Exclusive Brethren put out an all-points bulletin when I went missing and it wasn’t long before they tracked me down in Christchurch. My cousins in Canterbury were sent to talk to me, and they cried as they begged me to just stay with them for a few days to give me time to think about things. There was no church pressure, they said, and they just wanted to make sure I was in a safe space.

From there the grip increased like a stranglehold. The first thing to go was the cheap cellphone I had bought – my only link to people outside the church. I wouldn’t need that now, they said. Then the pressure was applied to begin going to church again. Didn’t I miss the brethren? From there I was sent to live in Palmerston North with my uncle and aunt, and then on from there to Sydney – the home of Bruce Hales.

Bruce Hales had clear ideas about what was to be achieved during my time in Sydney. The priests in New Zealand had sent him a portfolio with all the information they had on me, so he was brought up to speed with what had been going on. He told my Sydney host that I wouldn’t be sent back to New Zealand until the problem was “sorted out”. He instructed that I was to see another doctor with a view to receiving treatment for my sexuality.

Church doctor number two – Mark Craddock. Craddock was in his early seventies, and a much nicer person than Kirkpatrick. I was taken to visit him at his home, where we spoke for a brief ten minutes. Homosexuality was a desolate lifestyle, he said. What percentage homosexual was I? 100%, I replied. Don’t be ridiculous, that’s impossible, I was told. He didn’t have any drugs to hand to “cure” homosexuality, although he told me he was experimenting with some on another young gay person in Sydney. In the meantime, he recommended that I take suppressants to quell any sexual urges I may have.

And that was that. He wrote out a prescription for some medicine, gave it five repeats, and handed it over. There was no discussion of my past medical history, no discussion of potential side-effects, no description of the drug, and no arrangement for further consultation. I left his living room with a piece of paper which entitled me to take the drug for up to a year without seeing another medical professional.

It was an awful drug. I took two pills every morning, two every evening, and the effects were immediately noticeable. I was dazed and upset, and hit by occasional bouts of nausea. That was quite aside from the near impotence it produced. I couldn’t bear it, and after several weeks I stopped taking it. I wrote to Bruce Hales and told him I had had a moral breakthrough and could now control my feelings without medical intervention.

It wasn’t until I left the Exclusive Brethren for good in 2009 that I began questioning what I had been through with church doctors. Even then it was more at the urging of others than because I felt I had been ill-treated in any way. All my life I had been trained to respect and obey church leaders, so it was quite some time before I began to question whether what they had done was right. I then spoke out about my experiences with the 60 Minutes programme in New Zealand, and with the Today Tonight programme in Australia.

At the beginning of 2010 I submitted a formal complaint over my mistreatment at the hands of Craddock to the New South Wales Health Care Complaints Commission. They launched an investigation into his practices, which proceeded so slowly I often forgot it was happening. Every few months an email from the commission asking for information would remind me, and I would wonder how long I would have to wait for an outcome.

That outcome was realised two weeks ago. The process finally came to a conclusion, and the commission handed down its ruling. Mark James Christopher Craddock of Sydney was found guilty on a lengthy list of charges, including unsatisfactory professional conduct. The commission subsequently ruled that he could no longer practice as a GP.
https://diaryofabrethrenboy.wordpress.c ... uce-hales/

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Post by Simon » Tue May 14, 2019 7:59 am

Just a little point in the interests of accuracy. Kilpatrick is quoted as saying homosexuality is institutional. If he said that he probably meant homosexuality is constitutional.

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