John Hales' apology

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John Hales' apology

Post by Admin » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:55 am

Does anyone have a copy of the exact letter or apology from JSH where he says sorry for misleading the brethren? I would like to put it on the front page of the main site.
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Re: John Hales' apology

Post by PREACHER9 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:28 am

I have a copy ... somewhere as I sent it to a Peeb a few months back. He claimed that he was totally unware of it.

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Re: John Hales' apology

Post by Admin » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:44 pm

I do have one now, thanks
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Re: John Hales' apology

Post by fisherman » Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:50 pm

Is that the one the EB refuse to acknowledge even exists?or if it does,it's a 'fake'?(JSH was reputedly 'incapable of sin')

I am told the original is handwritten,if so has it ever been examined by an independent handwriting expert for authenticity?...shouldn't be difficult if they can check it against other known handwriting by JSH.
However I am unfortionately under no illusion it would make any difference,the typical next EB response even if it was 100% verified as genuine would be 'it was obtained under duress'.

The brethren have an answer for everything,their house of cards depends upon it......

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Re: John Hales' apology

Post by Phil T » Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:27 pm

That letter is just like a business letter:

There is no: "Dear brother ...."

There is no mention of love in the letter.

The ending is a formal sign off with no: "In Christ" or similar Christian letter ending.

It is as cold and impersonal as I understand his character was. I never met the man but have heard about his hardness.

To me it would appear to have been written because an apology was expected, but not out of remorse with any heart feeling. Maybe it was just so that he could get back inside the cult.

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Re: John Hales' apology

Post by Admin » Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:37 pm

I posted a transcript of it earlier on the main front page of WP.

I trust it is the same one?

12 Austin Av
Croydon
NSW
18-11-65

Brian M Deck

Motueka

I have sinned against you & your wife & household and the saints & the assembly in Motueka at the meetings in May. My course has not been in the Spirit but in the flesh & there has been much transgression, but the things that weigh on me are these.

The way in which the status & exercises of the assembly in Motueka were set aside and not given any place to.

Much that was offensive in speaking & unbecoming was allowed in the meetings. I think in particular of the way I spoke to one brother concerning his contribution to the special collection. This was wholly anti-Christian & grievously injurious to the brother.

There were references to two other brothers concerning their private income - one for being small and one for being large. Besides a direct transgression against the brothers, it brought in the spirit of the world & commerce & worldly advantage & the ridiculing of a saint of God.

I am ashamed of the way I spoke to your wife at the family table. I was expressing my judgement which I now see to have derived from the flesh & not the Spirit. I transgressed most grievously.

I transgressed against you too in having part in commercial meetings in your house at the time of the meetings. It is clear too that the interference in your business matters was a transgression on my part.

I am appalled as I think of the kind of man I have allowed in the assembly & among the saints in contrast to the spirit of the men of God who have laboured & lived amongst you & live yet.

I am horrified at the dishonour to the Lord & to His assembly, at the kind of alien spirit & conduct that has been so active in the holy things of God. I am grieved at the pain & suffering I have inflicted on the saints.

I am under discipline for my course but I desire to convey something to you to put right in some way the awful wrong I have done.

(Signed) John S Hales
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