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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:28 am 
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The word 'homosexual' is not merely a description of someone in EB eyes: it is a pejorative term. To them, it is not a natural condition but a sin. So when an EB wants to condemn someone in the strongest terms it is a word which comes to their minds. A number have been referred to in this way, whether or not it was accurate.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:31 pm 
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Crikey 12345 - you must be old! Cowell has been gone for ......ooooh 40 years. Hasn't he? Isn't he the chap in the front row of the notorious London Meetings?

54 years actually, Abishag!

Nothing like being a survivor! So far I have outlived 4 EB MOGs.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:09 pm 
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I suggest one if the greatest exposures of the EB/PBCC is the way they change directions at a whim nobody stands up and demands "Why,How come?How can something be 'evil'yesterday and perfectly alright today?

You'd think the old'the Lord turned a corner' or 'the spirit isn't stressing that currently amongst us" explanation for anybody foolish enough to ask would be wearing a bit thin,especially when people were thrown out and lost everything for what they now see the brethren openly doing.The most blatant example is the "judgement"people professed to have over the "Commercial System" back in the 60's which has returned full blown...

Does NOBODY use their brain any more?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:25 pm 
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G'day! I promised to post this Statement that I published in the local paper last March to address the lies and misinformation that had been spread inside the cult and in the local community as part of obliterating me after I was withdrawn from. It takes head on the HEB's personal innuendos ie; that Craig "walked out to pursue an alternative lifestyle" ................WHICH IS A DESPICABLE LIE................ Bruce D. Hales is as honest, genuine and trustworthy as Vladimir Putin. The HEB went to the full bench Appeal Court to try and and PREVENT me publishing this Statement. They LOST. They had a full legal team with various HEB heavies in attendance and Stephen Joyce (Jaybro Group) "calling the shots" under BDH (the quote is from BDH!). I represented myself. If you click on the statement twice it enlarges to a decent size type :) . Cheers, Craig.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:21 pm 
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Personally,I would take if as a complement to be accused of being an 'independent thinker',that's a privilege Brethren don't have

I suggest the common denominator of all cults is denouncing any independence or to think for yourself.The only question the poor souls are allowed to ask is 'how high?'when the leaders says 'jump'


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:50 am 
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"Undue Influence" is something else that can be found in all cults though of course independent thought and succumbing to undue influence are associated. Undue influence is a legal term I understand from my lawyer assistant and one we should perhaps be thinking about


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:26 pm 
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It all comes back to the EB/PBCC's attitude of entitlement,that the end justifying the means.The term 'heavenly deception ' has been used to describe their actions,that it's ok to do whatever it takes to 'protect the position'.

When you are born and brought up to truly believe you are superior,and that everyone is against you(both classic cult attitudes)and you have no contact with anyone outside your own circle,or are ever challenged on what you believe then facts and truth becomes what you are told they are and there's nobody around to demand verification.People can be programmed not to think for themselves through fear and or incentives.Bruce was just smart enough to figure out a way to make a lot of money off of it

The fact is,when it comes to the EB/PBCC,their reality isn't our reality,which is common to all cults,but you have to be out if it before you realize just how brainwashed we were.I would have stoutly denied any of all of these allegations when I was a member.Deprograming isn't easy and being faced with the undeniable truth of just how far off track we were can be very painful


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:07 pm 
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Article in Christian Today
See http://www.christiantoday.com/article/p ... /50256.htm

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Plymouth Brethren under investigation by HMRC

The Exclusive Brethren is being investigated by HMRC over funding practices relating to its faith schools.

According to a report in The Times, the group, also known as the Plymouth Brethren, operate 34 schools at an annual cost of £30 million. Though a spokesman confirmed that Brethren schools follow the national curriculum and the website says "emphasis on religion at school is minimal," The Times cites allegations that children are segregated by gender, and certain books, including JD Salinger's Catcher in the Rye, are banned.

HMRC is now investigating tax rebate claims on parental donations to one of the schools. The Brethren receives millions of pounds of charitable tax relief each year, but up to £4 million of that could now be at risk if HMRC uncovers any malpractice.

A spokesperson for the Brethren told Christian Today that the school is among other faith schools also being investigated over gift aid. "The Plymouth Brethren Christian Church (PBCC) supports the government's right to levy taxes and do not in any way evade tax," a statement from the church said.

"The tax treatment of funds contributed by parents to charitable schools is far from straightforward, and a number of faith group schools and schools run by charitable foundations are subject to an ongoing review by HMRC. During this review we have sought the very best financial and legal advice and continue to cooperate fully with HMRC."

In an earlier article, The Times refers to Brethren's disciplinary practices, claiming that any member who breaches the group's rules risks being ostracised and thrown out, a process known as "shutting up" and "withdrawing from".

"If a Brethren member is shut up, no one except local elders can talk to them. Children move out of the homes of shut-up parents to live with other members of the community, often for months. If breaches continue, the shut-up member is withdrawn from. Under this ultimate sanction, it is often found that nobody in the sect will speak to that member again," The Times reports.

A statement on the Brethren's website refutes many of the claims made in this article, including a comment by Kevin Rudd, the former prime minister of Australia, who condemned the group as an "extremist cult" which "breaks up families".

"The PBCC is a mainstream Christian church," the statement maintains, adding that Brethren life is not "restricted and controlled" as the article suggests, but "PBCC members find their lives to be full, varied and rewarding."

It also highlights allegations that it mounted an "extraordinary lobbying campaign" to pressurise the Charity Commission into granting the church charitable status.

"BCC members support whatever Government is in power and make use of their democratic right to approach MPs or Peers about any issues of concern," the statement reads.

The church said in its statement to Christian Today: "The PBCC holds the same basic Christian truths as the Church of England, Roman Catholics, Methodists, Baptists and others. The PBCC is a group of observant Christians and are a mainstream Christian Church who choose to practice our faith fully in accordance with the Bible.

"We are not a 'cult', we are not secret and we have nothing to hide. Our meeting hall trusts have been recently investigated by the Charity Commission and our charitable status has been confirmed; all trust practices comply with their regulations."


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:44 pm 
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'We are not a cult,we are not secret and we have nothing to hide'.....and somewhere else'we welcome scruteny'......well,I'm really glad to hear that,they will have absolutely no problem with opening the books to an independent auditor,will they? Uh,hate to bring this up,at this juncture of the testimony but they accused the people back in 1970 of 'doctoring' the tapes and transcripts of Our Beloveds ribald foot stomping laughter filled meetings at Aberdeen....(that would be the 'divinely inspired oracular light right out of the temple' according to BDH.....)


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:42 am 
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fisherman wrote:
'We are not a cult,we are not secret and we have nothing to hide'.....and somewhere else'we welcome scruteny'......well,I'm really glad to hear that,they will have absolutely no problem with opening the books to an independent auditor,will they? Uh,hate to bring this up,at this juncture of the testimony but they accused the people back in 1970 of 'doctoring' the tapes and transcripts of Our Beloveds ribald foot stomping laughter filled meetings at Aberdeen....(that would be the 'divinely inspired oracular light right out of the temple' according to BDH.....)


They are not mainstream religion. They aren't even a religion just a cult and nothing more. The rank and file, the peebs plebs deserve better based on their past blind obedience, let alone the financial rip offs.


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