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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:28 pm 
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Absolute power and totalitarianism have certain characteristics whether excercised within a secular or religious arena.

Mugabe set himself up for life. His opponents disappear. He uses his power to enrich himself. It is easy to find yourself out of favour.

What was not anticipated when he assumed power nearly 40 years ago was that he would last so long. He intended to stay on top for the rest of his life. No-one expected that he'd still be there at 93.

Hales does not plan on retirement as far as we know. None of his predecessors did. Indeed, part of his status is that he believes God has placed him there until his personal rapture. Compassion and sense would have got rid of the senile Taylor before he went from outrage to outrage.

But events are overwhelming Mugabe. The people are rising up. Even popes go nowadays. Archbishops of Canterbury have always seen their ministry as being for a season.

Perhaps Hales and his people will see sense.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:42 pm 
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Perhaps Hales and his people will see sense.


'Wishful thinking daydreams fly' is a line from a popular song often song in my youth among the peeblets. I wonder if my subconscious was telling me something at that time?

You.Will.Not.Change.Us.

Even if Broocie gets locked up for getting busted over his bribery scandal the brainwashed subjects would just treat it as 'The Lord's Servant suffering for the sake of the Testimony' AND give him more money!

They are barking flipping mad!

BTW if you want to see how these despots live, just google Robert Mugabe's house - or his bathroom and it will give you an idea what a certain house in Sydney will look like inside.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:36 pm 
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No, I don't think the EB as an institution will change. But I do hope that many will become increasingly disillusioned and leave.

In Zimbabwe, it appears that the expected successor is as bad as the current bad man.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:20 am 
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Bit like the brethren eh - JTJr was worse than his dad, and Piggyboy was worse again, then grumpybum JSH had a few mental health issues going along and more mad ideas, but present little money grabber about takes the biscuit; tip him out and the odds are another family member who will no doubt dream up some more daft rules.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:43 am 
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Recent history gives us several examples in which life did not get any better after the fall of a dictator. Life in Iraq after Saddam Hussein or in Lybia after Muammar Gaddafi or in Egypt after Hosni Mubarak was not much better than before. After a dictatorship it is difficult to establish a functioning democracy, especially in a bitterly divided and poorly educated population with no tradition of respect for human rights.

The Brethren have the problem that they have no tradition of respect for democracy either.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:05 pm 
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Based on both their attitudes and actions ,I don't think the EB respect ANYTHING,not democracy OR the law...by their own admission they seem to think they are 'the highest court in the land'

Democracy has to be both modelled and learned.Politically incorrect as it is today, the British Empire left a system of law and order and the democratic process when they turned over governing to their former colonies.Military coups rarely do that.

Unfortunately in the case of the EB/PBCC,merely changing the 'Universal Leader' will not correct the fundamental flaw that is their Achilles heel- the 'one man ministry' accountable to no one who rules over the 'universal fellowship'.( Scripture mandates neither)Local,qualifed leaders( note the plurality) working with qualified elders, probides checks and ballances and firewalls to limit damage when someone runs amok...EB have no such protocols,what happened was inevitable. The best thing that could ever happen to the 'Universal Fellowship' would be to dismantle it completely ,voluntarily or involuntarily( most cults implode) and go back to the model set out by Paul....then possibly the brethren could be Christians...rather than 'businessmen'


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:34 pm 
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The British Empire was, in effect, one gigantic military coup, imposing a different version of law, religion and society wherever it invaded and conquered. There may well have been some good things as a consequence but the BE could show the modern ISIS a few tricks on how to torture and terrorise people. Nothing ISIS does has not been done before - by the BE.

Nothing at all to do with political correctness.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:43 pm 
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That era of colonialism was brutal( likely the Belgians in Africa were the worst) but after the Brits were kicked out for having tea in Boston they realized they couldn't hang on to their colonies by force and wisely instituted the British Commonwealth by turning them into trading partners ,leaving English as a language, British law and order and the parlementry system. The Brits then dumped their trash into Australia...

Unfortionately nobody's history is pristine,and all we can do is try to learn from it...,unfortionately,the EB/PBCC don't seem to have learned anything...


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