A film nominated for the F:ACT Award

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Re: A film nominated for the F:ACT Award

Post by MitchellStafiej » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:24 am

fisherman wrote:I fully expect they will try as they always have ,to stop anything that exposes them( the 'attack') but eventually the burden of evidence turns the tide of public opinion against them. We saw the same scenario played out by the Catholic Church on abuse issues....they threw everything they had into the fight but eventually capitulated....you can't hide the truth forever
Ngaire Thomas went though the same thing when she published 'Behind Closed Doors' ,intimidation ,threats ,coercion

I wouldn't be surprised to see a class action lawsuit initiated against them some day,be interesting to see the shoe on the OTHER foot..
I fully expect some sort of intimidation.

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Re: A film nominated for the F:ACT Award

Post by Ian McKay » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:46 am

If the Brethren try to suppress this film by intimidation, that could make it more of a success. People would be keen to see “The film the Exclusive Brethren tried to kill!”

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Re: A film nominated for the F:ACT Award

Post by fisherman » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:03 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me the brethren have gone to extraordinary lengths to try to stop any public exposure or investigation into their nefarious activity , books ,or media reporting of them.BDH himself is paranoid about being seen in public

When the Winipeg Free Press ran a feature 'The Closed Door Church ' on them in 9/5/2014 local residents couldn't find a paper anywhere, EB took vans to every news stand and bought up every newspaper and dumped them....'welcome scrutiny'? -NOT...

Hopefuly this film will be an accurate unbiased verifiable documentry exposing the harsh treatment,lies and duplicity of this cult masquerading as 'Christians' ....if it is,bring it on, shout it from the housetops,'tell it on the mountains'

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Re: A film nominated for the F:ACT Award

Post by MitchellStafiej » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:28 am

fisherman wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me the brethren have gone to extraordinary lengths to try to stop any public exposure or investigation into their nefarious activity , books ,or media reporting of them.BDH himself is paranoid about being seen in public

When the Winipeg Free Press ran a feature 'The Closed Door Church ' on them in 9/5/2014 local residents couldn't find a paper anywhere, EB took vans to every news stand and bought up every newspaper and dumped them....'welcome scrutiny'? -NOT...

Hopefuly this film will be an accurate unbiased verifiable documentry exposing the harsh treatment,lies and duplicity of this cult masquerading as 'Christians' ....if it is,bring it on, shout it from the housetops,'tell it on the mountains'
The film is a personal story of the main character but with far-reaching implications. It largely deals with family and PTSD as its main themes.

I have yet to hear anything from the Brethren.

I'm curious though, how would they go about approaching the film if they caught wind of it? What steps would they take?

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Re: A film nominated for the F:ACT Award

Post by Ian McKay » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:26 am

The Brethren might get lawyers to send you letters warning you that if the film contains any suggestion that the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church is responsible for harming its members or anyone else, or if you infringe the copyright of the Bible and Gospel Trust then they will not hesitate to seek compensation through the courts and protect their interests to the full extent of the law.

Unless they see a preview of the film they can’t do much more. For instance, they can’t ask a court to prevent its release.

Only a few years ago they were in the habit of sending out snowstorms of such letters, but since the Charity Commission threatened their various trusts with loss of charitable status, they have in effect agreed to behave less aggressively, and such letters are now less common. They have probably noticed too that their tactic has largely been an abject failure, because there are now dozens of printed memoirs and documentaries that expose the evils of Exclusive Brethrenism in harrowing detail. It’s too late for them to hush it all up.

If you get one of these letters, you will have to decide whether they are bluffing.

Some creators of documentaries, news reports and printed books have adopted a policy of avoiding any advance publicity so as to avoid any pre-emptive action on the part of the Brethren.

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Re: A film nominated for the F:ACT Award

Post by fisherman » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:51 pm

They may have infringed on the copywrite of the 'Big Bad Wolf' in the 'Three Little Pigs'when he tried to intimidate them by saying he would 'huff and puff and blow your house down' ...chap came to a bad end,fell down the chimney and ended up in hot water...not the first time it's happened to bully's you know...

I got one such 'huff and puff' letter a few years ago...try as I might I couldn't crumple it up enough to get it soft enough for any practical use...so go for it...trouble is these poor souls strutting around like a cock on a rock actually think they are important....sad...but eventually with public exposure the tide turns and people see them for what they are...just another cult...nothing special, dime a dozen,they come and they go...'exclusive' NOT .....'PBCC' WHO?

The best thing about the Internet is these guys can't hide anymore...

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Re: A film nominated for the F:ACT Award

Post by Ian McKay » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:12 pm

This film The Devil's Trap will be premiering in Montreal on the 16th and 17th November at the RIDM film festival. For places and times, see http://ridm.ca/fr/films/the-devils-trap

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Re: A film nominated for the F:ACT Award

Post by Ian McKay » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:16 pm

I have just finished watching The Devil’s Trap. It is a moving and disturbing documentary, created in a thoroughly professional way. It is about the experiences of Lane Admiraal, who was brought up in the Exclusive Brethren and escaped at the age of 18. The film starts with a scene in which Lane is emotionally distraught, but we are not yet told why. Then, on a long journey hoping to meet his family for the first time in 7 years, he reminisces about his life and escape.

At the age of 13 he was sexually abused by a guy in the church. When asked if it still goes on in the EB community he says, “If it is in there I don’t think it is being reported to the police. That I can say with almost certainty.”

At the age of 14 he was served a glass of black label whisky (he gestures to indicate a large glass) in the presence of Mr Hales.

On one occasion he says of his father, “He was pumping laundry detergent into my mouth.” He also describes being punched.

He says of his mother, “She was always kind to me.”

He was frequently told he was mentally ill. His parents took him to the Mayo Clinic, where he was given many tests and told he was completely normal.

He meets an aunt who welcomes him with open arms. She had left the Brethren too and describes her experiences.

He explores the house, now empty, where he was brought up, and remembers sadly the things that happened there.

When he finally met his brother part of his conversation included this: “How about when I had sex with the Mum at 15 years old? She was 26 and it was statutory rape. And when I went to the Brethren and told them about it, they didn’t even come back. Dad told me, well, she denied it.”

He pleads to be allowed to see his father for 5 minutes.

His brother replies, “I don’t know if he can take it. He’s mentally not stable himself.”

Lane says, “I still love the Lord. I still pray. I still read my Bible.” He also smokes and drinks and swears a lot.

After his brother states his belief in the Brethren’s version of separation, Lane asks, “Do you really think you are going to stand before God, and stand before the Lord, and he is going to be OK with this?”

His brother replies, “I do.”

Finally we return to the opening scene in which Lane is emotionally distraught. Now we know why. He had sent an email asking to meet his parents and they had refused.

Finally he reaches a resolution, and decides to live with rejection. “That part of my life is behind me. I’ve done everything I can do. I’m no longer going to try and contact you guys.”

He has given up on the hope of reconciliation with his parents. He just hopes they are happy. “I survived; I’m OK; I am happy; I have got a good job; I’ve got a great life ahead of me, and I’ve no desire . . . to change them or myself or go back.”

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