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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:09 pm 
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Councillors reject Plymouth Brethren Church plan for Mobberley Riding School
Stephen Topping


RESIDENTS who fought hard to campaign against a controversial plan to build a Christian meeting hall in Mobberley burst into applause as borough chiefs threw out the proposal yesterday.

Members of Cheshire East Council’s northern planning committee rejected an application by the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church to demolish buildings at the former Mobberley Riding School, in Newton Hall Lane, and build a new meeting centre for 508 people on Wednesday, February 8.

Almost 200 objections to the proposal were raised by residents during consultation, but CEC had recommended planning permission was granted ahead of the meeting.

The recommendation said that the proposals would not have a ‘detrimental impact’ on the site, but councillors at the meeting disagreed, arguing that intrusions to the community would not be outweighed by any benefits.

Cllr Craig Browne said: “The Plymouth Brethren Church is not known for being an open and inclusive community, and a number of rejections from residents have reflected this.

“It’s not clear that the church would benefit people in Mobberley. The only way we could make this work is if a condition was imposed that the building would also be used for the community.

“If the Brethren is as open as it states that it should have no issue having this imposed.”

The plans would have see the removal of all the current buildings on the site, apart from the Oak House, while a meeting hall with capacity for 508 members would have been developed.

Five services would have been held at the hall most weeks, including a 6am service on Sundays, and evening services on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

A total of 182 letters of objection were sent about the development, while Mobberley Parish Council recommended the plans were thrown out on the grounds of increased traffic making the village’s roads unsafe.

Neighbouring parish councils in Wilmslow, Ollerton with Marthall and Great Warford also objected to the plans.

In a written statement read to the committee, Cllr Jamie Macrae, CEC ward councillor slammed the proposal as ‘intrusive’ on the community and greenbelt.

Cllr Steward Gardiner added: “This development will attract a significant amount of traffic from people far beyond the parish and the area.”

But Cllr Nick Mannion claimed there was ‘no planning reason’ to reject the development, and warned members of the committee to ‘forget who the applicants were’ as they made the decision.

The proposal was turned down by eight votes to four.

Following the decision, Sarah Foster, representing the Plymouth Brethren Church, told the Guardian she was unsure if the church would appeal the decision.

“Clearly we’re disappointed, and we will be looking at the reasons the application was rejected,” she said.

“There were clearly a lot of local concerns, and it’s too soon to know if the decision will be appealed.”

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:06 pm 
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See also http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma ... r-38908501


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:27 pm 
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Maybe it would be a good idea for the brethren to take stock of their public testimony and ask themselves why their application was rejected ( and no,they aren't being 'persecuted because they are being 'faithful',they're just plain BAD NEIGHBOURS)

Fact is,there would not only be ZERO BENEFIT to the community ,but due to the tax exemption, a drain on the local taxpayers...a net NEGATIVE. Churches are normally awarded tax exemption on the grounds they provide a demonstratable BENEFIT to the community....and no,giving out a few hot dogs and bottles of water as window dressing doesn't qualify....

The local Anglican Church downtown has a food bank,opens its doors in inclement weather, has washing machines,dryers, and showers for homeless people, provides a weekly meal and the doors are OPEN ...DEFINATELY a 'benefit to the community' and their tax free status is well justified....they aren't trying to 'put one over' on the city council


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:49 pm 
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This is quite an interesting case. The Planning Department accepted the application on the basis of planning policies, but the Council rejected it on some other basis, not fully spelled out. A clue can be found in this extract:
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Cllr Craig Browne said: “The Plymouth Brethren Church is not known for being an open and inclusive community, and a number of rejections from residents have reflected this.

“It’s not clear that the church would benefit people in Mobberley. The only way we could make this work is if a condition was imposed that the building would also be used for the community.

“If the Brethren is as open as it states that it should have no issue having this imposed.”

“It’s not clear that the church would benefit people in Mobberley” is something of an understatement. To me it is not clear that the existence of Exclusive Brethrenism in Mobberley would benefit even the Exclusive Brethren ordinary members. They are among the most severely affected victims.

An example of making your building open to the community is seen in the rather heartwarming story of how a synagogue in Texas handed the keys of their synagogue to the Muslim community after their mosque burned down. One of the mosque's founders, Shahid Hashmi, said: "Jewish community members walked into my home and gave me a key to the synagogue." See http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 56331.html


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:51 pm 
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I think its because Jesus is playing for Manchester City that this planning application has been kicked out.

Ah, God moves in mysterious ways,
His wonders to perform,
He gives old Broocie one big kick
And laughs at him in scorn.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:14 pm 
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'Laughs at him in scorn'..that was one of WBHs tactics in the 60's as they singled out and held up anyone even suspected of 'not being 'in line' with what was being 'set on' amongst us' or not drinking whisky to public humiliation by getting everyone to laugh at them( yes,I was there and witnessed it myself) ...quoting 'the virgin daughters of Jerusalem laugheth they to scorn'...nice guys? NOT ...had no use for any Hales,past ,present or future,bunch of loudmouthed ignorant 'second class Englishmen trying to be Americans',why we ever let em in the door( the SECOND time no less) is a mystery to me.....talk funny ,too.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:34 pm 
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Church appeals decision to move into riding school

From an article by Ned Bristow in today’s Knutsford Guardian

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AN appeal has been lodged against Cheshire East Council’s decision to refuse the Plymouth Brethren Church permission to make use of the former Mobberley Riding School.

Plans to demolish the former school and build a new church hall on the site were rejected by the council in February on the grounds of inappropriate and unsustainable greenbelt development, with parking for up to 140 cars having been proposed.

An 11th-hour appeal was lodged with the planning inspectorate and, with public comments accepted until November 3, protesters against the church are fundraising to help formulate a professional response.
See the whole article at http://www.knutsfordguardian.co.uk/news ... ng_school/


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:33 am 
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If anyone wants to support the local residents to fight this appeal you can do so here

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/appealagainstridingschooldevelopment?utm_id=66&utm_term=Ddp6rd7KE


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