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 Post subject: Re: Faith Schools
PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:43 pm 
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Interestingly, in the UK the Department of Education does not view segregating girls and boys for travel as an issue. They state that girls and boys and be treated 'differently' as long as one is not being favoured over the other. The relevant documentation can be found on page 20 :

/www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/315587/Equality_Act_Advice_Final.pdf

Boys and girls travel on the same bus to the brethren schools, but are segregated by having seats allocated, and according to their handbook, girls sit at the rear, and boys at the front. Here is what One Bus School Transport say in their Jan 2014 handbook:


"TRAVEL GUIDELINES
STUDENT SEATING
The girls should sit at the rear of the bus and the boys at the front. All students must
comply with this seating arrangement at all times even if there are vacant seats. The
Bus Coordinator will allocate seats."

The messages of discrimination can be very subtle, and there seems to be a reluctance to take issue with those messages in the UK, if they are given because of a schools religious ethos.


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 Post subject: Re: Faith Schools
PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:28 am 
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A source within the Exclusive Brethren tells us that they have changed over the last decade or so in their attitude to those who have emotional or psychological problems. For instance, problems such as bullying in schools are now sometimes handled differently. It seems that an outside counsellor or mediator can be called in without any of the Brethren being consulted or informed.

That represents a big change. There was a time when Brethren were very careful not to let professional people discover that they had problems, perhaps afraid that they might blame the religion. They wanted to hide their problems even from the teachers. BDH said something along these lines.

BDH Vol. 49 page 76 (Sydney, 15 March 2006)
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See, the struggles we’re having with our children shouldn’t be picked up by the teachers, should they, should it? Shouldn’t have worldly teachers draw the parents’ attention to the struggle that the child is having.


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 Post subject: Re: Faith Schools
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:43 am 
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Ian McKay wrote:
A source within the Exclusive Brethren tells us that they have changed over the last decade or so in their attitude to those who have emotional or psychological problems. For instance, problems such as bullying in schools are now sometimes handled differently. It seems that an outside counsellor or mediator can be called in without any of the Brethren being consulted or informed.

That represents a big change. There was a time when Brethren were very careful not to let professional people discover that they had problems, perhaps afraid that they might blame the religion. They wanted to hide their problems even from the teachers. BDH said something along these lines.

BDH Vol. 49 page 76 (Sydney, 15 March 2006)
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See, the struggles we’re having with our children shouldn’t be picked up by the teachers, should they, should it? Shouldn’t have worldly teachers draw the parents’ attention to the struggle that the child is having.


It is interesting, as in 2009 it was not the case as everything was addressed internally, and there was a proposal to train and qualify unmarried women in their late 30's to 40's as nurses as far as they could go without attending university. These were to handle the 'social' issues arising within.

Now alcoholics attend Alcoholics Anonymous, and they have special teachers and teachers assistants [unqualified] to assist intellectually challenged students [a condition that could easily have resulted from a whisky-Prozac programmed mother, but that of course would never be the case] and others with personality deficits, autism etc.. Some students are taught one-to-one by persons who are in effect 'interpreters' who specialise in 3 word sentences and 1 syllable words, and who write for the students as they mumble their responses in assessments. 'Special needs teachers' were very common in their position advertisements and far in excess of those of other institutions, but it is hard to find their staff advertisements these days.

The gene pool is shrinking? Maybe the reason that families are no longer encouraged to multiply and fill the earth, but if self control is not possible then use birth control, as 'our beloved' has told many. It is surprising that brewers droop and whisky willies hasn't stopped procreation altogether. If LinkedIn entries are any gauge, there are a lot of females working and some at high levels. so do women outnumber men, or are women free to tell the men to 'p*ss off' as they do not want the traditional females lot, OR ... maybe they are saving themselves for the virgin pool for the Muslim martyrs?

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 Post subject: Re: Faith Schools
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:10 am 
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The Focus School in Rotherham has employed a teacher called Mr G since January 2016.

He previously worked at St Benedict academy, where several members of staff said that he sexually harassed them. A disciplinary hearing was arranged there, but he resigned from his job before the hearing could be held. The school's governors then referred the matter to the NCTL (National College for Teaching and Leadership).

As well as the complaints, the NCTL panel was also provided with a number of "very positive character references and testimonials from colleagues, parents and pupils”.

The panel decided that the Mr G was in breach of the teachers' standard which says that "teachers should uphold public trust in the profession and maintain high standards of ethics and behaviour, within and outside schools, by showing tolerance of and respect for the rights of others". Additionally, they said he also "failed to develop effective professional relationships with colleagues". However, it decided not to bar him from teaching.

So by employing a teacher with a controversial history, is the Focus School showing commendable Christian compassion and forgiveness? Or do the Brethren’s lax moral standards of 1970 still exert a residual influence? After all, the misbehaviour that the teacher was accused of was pretty minor compared with what some leading Brethren got away with.

See http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/hearing ... tK5fklg.99


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 Post subject: Re: Faith Schools
PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:30 am 
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The Principal of an Exclusive Brethren school in St. Vincent, North Minnesota, appointed in August 2016 was fired in February 2017 after admitting to downloading and viewing thousands of items of child pornography.

According to Lucas Bedell, Education Director with Sterling Education, all Sterling teachers are required to be licensed in their state or province, but according to an article by Andrew Hazzard on Apr 13, 2017 in Brainerd Dispatch, no record could be found of the dismissed teacher’s license in the Minnesota Department of Education database. This is rather surprising.

Fortunately, there is no suggestion that he has harmed any of the 50 children at the school.

The full article can be read at http://www.brainerddispatch.com/news/42 ... e-children


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 Post subject: Re: Faith Schools
PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 3:06 pm 
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The Conservative Party manifesto published today contains the following commitment -
New Faith schools will now have to prove parents of other faiths and none would be prepared to send their children to that school.
I wonder how many parents outside of the Exclusive Brethren would be prepared to send their children to a school run by that sect?


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 Post subject: Re: Faith Schools
PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 11:19 pm 
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................... then there was the case in the antipodes where a senior student literally ran away with one of her teachers (much older) - leaving the Brethren and as far as I know - is still with him. So when they opened their own schools to closet their children from the influences of the world -they were really deluding themselves. What they don't seem to understand is that you can never do that in a guaranteed manner. The 'devil' is everywhere!

The girls at the back of the bus -hmmm this has me in two minds. What happens if you are a Brethren girl - and you are black - and you are told to ride at the back of the bus? Will history repeat itself? Also why the girls at the back. Is this so the young brothers will not be seeing the backsides of the young sisters if their positions were reversed. These damn Peebs think of everything. But they cannot stop nature. Or perverts. And they have plenty of them I'm sure. They sure did in my day.


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 Post subject: Re: Faith Schools
PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:20 pm 
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Interesting to hear Ian's inside source has said that schools can access outside mediators now in instances of bullying or other problems within the school. This may vary in different places/countries, but to my knowledge this 'outside source' has still been an EB member: 'outside' is merely in the sense of not being directly connected to the school (ie. not a parent or a trustee). I know of several schools which have employed an EB to be available on a '24 hour phoneline' for reporting cases of bullying.

This may of course have changed in the last couple of years. Subtlety of language is a wonderful thing though, isn't it?


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 Post subject: Re: Faith Schools
PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 9:09 pm 
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EB are masters at duplicity...I put nothing past them...when you truly believe that 'everyone is against us' then it becomes an obligation to 'protect the position'.The only thing I would be surprised at if they 'presented themselves honest before all men'(Romans 12:17, but of course, that's just Paul talking..


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