The Revenge of Bruce Hales

The revenge of Bruce Hales – I have been very astute when it comes to Bruce Hales and his Hench team.  Mind you- it’s not hard to work him out. I saw the posturing after his father’s death and the bravado and insecurity of his bible fumbling’s in his first meetings. And fumble he did. But luckily he had a father in law with loads of front row service under his belt who it is reported used to help out with scripture and verse and topics for fellowship and three days meetings.

But the real story here is that this is not a tale of the next link in the unbroken line – but a tale of revenge. A bloody tale. Most coups are bloody and not without their victims and casualties. Names like Paskewitz come to mind when JSH grabbed the reigns from Symington’s dying hands. There was a worldwide expectation that the eminently qualified Mr P. would take over as the Elect Vessel. And there were people with other candidates in mind when JSH was ailing. But his sons had formed the wagons into a circle at the time and there was never any other option. BDH was filled with talk of keeping the pure line in family hands. And of revenge.  The most telling thing that Bruce Hales said at the time, according to former Sydney heavyweight Bob Thorncroft, who was the recipient of this pearl of intention, was- and I quote:

“The Hales name has been dirt for a number of years, but it is going to be different now”.

This was a family grasping back the power that it has lost – not once but three times. And it rankled them- you could tell.  They were peeved in the extreme and humiliated that their father and uncle and others had been dealt with for their misdemeanours.  Sadly – in the Exclusive Brethren- if a Man of God says it- you’re stuck with it! So when Hales’ father was thrown out three times by Taylor and Symington- the younger Hales could do no more at the time but sit there and grind their teeth as the shame and anger welled up inside them. Of course they paid lip service to Symington – BDH even ringing him to say that he agreed with him for the judgment on his father. Symington then told BDH to stay close to Ron Fawkes- before Fawkes met his Waterloo, along with other threats to the top job.  I could say that he was a grovelling little bastard but to be fair- if BDH didn’t take this line he would have been out on his ear too. Like I said- Brethren leaders are as infallible as any Pope.

But as John Hales’ health was failing him, including the reported over reliance on anti-depressants by both John and Helen Hales, together with the underlying fear of what he had placed on his brethren coming back to bite him in the afterlife   – his son was already working hard to ensure that he would be the one to take over from him – thus destroying the conception that Elect Vessels come from heaven. They don’t. Trust me. And this letter from Bob Thorncroft, a once prominent stalwart in the Sydney assembly, is more telling than many may realize.  And Thorncroft provides not only an insight – but actual words that provide evidence of this transition of power from JSH to BDH. He witnessed it.

You can see the intent and venom in that one line. Of course, Hales would refute this or dilute it today – but Bob Thorncroft was from the old school and was not a man to tell lies and he remembers this is exactly what BDH said on that particular day.

Now I have maintained for years that the Hales are by nature- power freaks. And we also know that they are nepotistic to their core. And they have become known to be very cruel people too. There is evidence that John Hales liked to push younger Peebs around as far back as WW11, reading and learning tactics of control from books. And the evidence of their System day’s shenanigans is still top of mind with most people who lived through it. They ran roughshod over the poor unsuspecting Brethren who were powerless to respond as they might have liked to at the time. This of course is one of the main issues with Sect leaders….you can’t back chat them. Your opinion does not matter. Your feelings don’t matter to them either.

Bruce has been good to his word. He has reversed just about everything that was wrong with his extended family and bestowed privilege on his brothers and relatives. He has brought back his uncle and cousin, he has whitewashed his aunt’s name and reputation, he has expunged and paid for debts and he has set them up like never before. Their family trusts runneth over. He has rebuilt the Hales name – better make that- Brand- and he has built a new castle for himself and his family and provided for his relatives. His name is on every legal title and he has raped and pillaged the Brethren financially – reversing every rule in the book to maximize every last buck out of their wallets and now their companies. His fingers are in every pie and he now presides over his empire with the aggression and watchfulness of a Kim ll Sung.

The wicked thing is that this family has not reversed its judgments on those they deposed and dealt with appallingly- from other families. Like the man who refused John Hales’ requests to look at his business books. Hales contacted his wife and told her that he had ways and means to assist her to leave her husband. Then they threw the man out and took him to court so many times that he really never saw his kids again. Oh- he won the court case but by then the children were so poisoned against their father that the result was the way Hales had orchestrated it anyway. And this was not because this man was doing anything unspiritual. It was because he had an accountant and didn’t want John Hales nosing through his personal financial records as well. Remember this

This is where a church becomes a sect. Right there! When your leader stops being your religious leader and tries to get his fingers on your finances and records – you have your definition proven in an instant.

Poor old Bob Thorncroft was thrown out in a vengeful way and never wished to be reinstated. He died out of the fellowship. But his thoughts at the time bewildered him as he set them down for us to see the early history of this current Brethren leader.

He goes on to say “I am convinced that pride and the love of prominence is at the root of his (BDH’s) trouble.”

When you get away from the EB – you can see them very clearly for what they are. And what they are not. And the last 10 years have perhaps been the most disturbing. We have watched an inept, greedy man and his brothers with a genetic lust for power and a love of other people’s money, wrestle the leadership from the hands of an ailing father and go into areas never before plumbed by the EB.

Bob goes on -“The brutal way that we, as old brethren have been treated particularly over the last three years by Bruce, Daniel and Ross Hales and the party stalwarts is something I would rather not go into, even to rejecting that we can have communion privately with the Lord. What more could they do to un-Christianise a person? I can well understand some persons treated like this becoming bitter.  We pray for grace to preserve us from this. The fact is Bruce was furious because concern was expressed publicly about the worldly conduct in which his own family had a leading part, and has done his utmost to find or fabricate some reason to get me out of the way.  Searching for imagined evil has entered into it and he resorts to bluff to get brethren to believe what he wants them told.  Unfortunately many have been so mesmerized that they think he can’t possibly do any wrong.”

Amazingly, Bob was a long-time supporter of John Hales and his family. But boy – didn’t he get bitten by the junior Hales members! Indeed they have done it to many people. All of their perceived threats have been removed. John Hales’s meticulously recorded personal files from his terror filled regime were apparently carefully destroyed by the sons so that their fathers  interference in other people’s lives could not be pinned on the newly cleansed Hales name. But the waters have never been so muddy since his youngest son has taken over the reins. Indeed his reversals are in many cases -a direct opposite to what his father was throwing people out for 20 years ago. Of course this sort of inconsistency and human flotsam is of no consequence to a Hales.

The controlling position and the desire to obtain wealth from others is everything. And the removal of ‘mud’ from the Hales name.

Statement by Bob Thorncroft

Thank you for sending this statement by Bob Thorncroft in, it sure is an eye opener and a document that was written in true faith. Alone with the statement was a note:

To put it in perspective Thorncroft was an ardent supporter of John Hales and believed in the ‘’unbroken line”. What it does show is how BDH gained control of the Peebs and how he really bullied his own father during his dying days. Thorncroft never recanted and died out of the Peebs several years ago. His wife returned as she was quite elderly and required care.



35 Fremont  Avenue,

Ermington, N.S.W. 2115

20th July 2002


What I am writing is not to criticise brethren, nor an attempt at self-justification or proclaiming self-righteousness, (far be the thought) but to state the truth, over against the lies which have been and continue to be circulated.

The position my wife and I have reluctantly taken is that we have withdrawn from Mr Bruce D Hales and his party supporters.  We have nothing against the truth held by brethren as it has been brought to us by leaders raised up distinctively by the Lord, J.N. Darby, F.E. Raven, J. Taylor, J. Taylor Jnr, and J.H. Symington and J.S. Hales.

What is at issue is the position of the one sovereignly chosen by the Lord to serve His people being quickly seized by a person who shows by his conduct that he is not morally qualified for such an office.

Those referred to who have led in the recovery of the truth have exhibited the spirit of Christ, in humility, self-judgement, lowliness, moral uprightness, free from preference and prejudice or respect of persons.  They each had enemies who attacked them personally and opposed the truth which they expressed not only in word, but practically in their way of life.

It is a well known and often used tactic in the world that attack is the best form of defense, especially when one knows he is guilty of wrongdoing, but too proud to admit it.  Sadly this has also been my own experience with Bruce D. Hales.

With nothing personal in mind at all, I have had reason to express to him genuine concern regarding certain of his own activities, and the conduct of some members of his household and that of his brother Stephen, for whom he acts as protector.  These matters have not just been isolated occurrences which could be bourne with, or overlooked, but are inconsistent with standard of the fellowship and the maintenance of right brotherly relations.

On every occasion, he  has not only flatly rejected my exercises, but sought to discredit me by spreading untrue reports, which brethren accept because of the place he has and the overpowering influence of his personality.

To divert attention from his own matters, he has concentrated his attacks on the theme that I was rival, and opposed to Mr Hales.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  He even goes so far as to claim that a word I gave in the ministry meeting in Sydney on 19th October 1999 was an attack on Mr. Hales.

When challenged on one of their visits, the “priests” could not provide one shred of evidence that the word was an attack on anyone, specially Mr. Hales.  They then said the word caused other brethren to be critical of Mr Hales and Bruce, but they couldn’t explain how this could be the result, nor could they give any facts to support their claim that I was rival to Mr Hales.

We sometimes puzzle how brethren could swallow such falsehood, when only a few short years earlier I was instrumental in looking into the wrongs done to Mr. Hales and having those wicked charges rejected and withdrawn.  Could a rival to Mr Hales be the author of the summary published in ministry in October 1987? A copy is enclosed.

As to the accusation that I changed his ministry, I freely own that at Mr Hales request, I reviewed the transcripts of his Sydney meetings and suggested some minor changes be  made for readability. These were all in pencil and returned to Mr Hales for his approval before being sent to the Depot.  At no time was I regarded as editor.  When the matter was first raised with me, copies of the transcripts were given me, not the originals on which the changes were made.  So many changes were attributed to me that I knew I did not make, so I asked to be shown the originals for checking however they were not made available.  I also suggested that they could go over with Mr Hales to test the truth of what I told them but was given the curt reply “He has forgotten”.  Could you really believe this?

Just an example of my changes – in a reading on 18th March 1995 Mr Hales said “the foe is so deceitful, he is so trained in deceit” etc.  I suggested the word “trained” be changed to “experienced”, as “trained” seemed to suggest outside influence.

On many occasions I sat down with Mr Hales in his house to go over the notes and asked him at least twice whether what I was doing was what he wanted done and was acceptable.  He expressed no difficulty.  Daniel would never accept that my changes were “suggested”.  He claimed that they were not referred to Mr Hales but sent straight from me to the Depot.  That is a lie.

Following the word I gave in the ministry meeting, Mr Hales expressed no difficulty, – he actually told Stephen Hales in my presence, and heard by others “There was nothing wrong with it”.  However, like Stephen, Bruce was enraged and persuaded his father to have second thoughts.  It was only then that Mr Hales phoned me the next morning (with Bruce listening) to suggest that the word “assembly” be changed and that referring to the verses in 1 Corinthians 5 was inappropriate.  It was obvious that he did this at Bruce’s direction, however he did not support Bruce’s demand that the word be entirely withdrawn.

On one of the many occasions the “priests” were trying to force me to withdraw the word, I finally said “Mr Hales has spoken to me a number of times regarding this matter, and has never said that the word should be withdrawn, however, if he states that that is now his mind, I will submit to it, – Please ask him”. They came back to me later to say that they decided not to ask Mr Hales and accused me of wanting to run my own case, and despising the priesthood, I think I know why they were afraid to ask Mr Hales.

Without wishing to discredit Mr Hales in any way it was becoming obvious that his deteriorating health and increasing weakness caused him to be dependant on his sons for physical support.  Either Bruce or Daniel accompanied him wherever he went and it was unlikely that anyone could talk to him privately without one if them (mostly Bruce) being present. Bruce eventually assumed control of all local administrative functions, finances, meeting arrangements, giving to levites, groups, even, it appears, where 3 day and fellowship meetings were to be held. He seemed to be able to use his powers of persuasion increasingly on his father to get him to think his way on most matters and persons, universally. Thankfully, not completely, but my impression is that Mr Hales was in such a weak condition that he tended to allow Bruce free rein, which of course Bruce was quick to take advantage of… Woe betide any who dared to question what he did.

The brutal way that we, as old brethren have been treated particularly over the last three years by Bruce, Daniel and Ross Hales and the party stalwarts is something I was rather not go into, even to rejecting that we can have communion privately with the Lord. What more could they do to unchristianise a person? I can well understand some persons treated like this becoming bitter.  We pray for grace to preserve us from this.

It is not my desire to expose the persons involved, however quite a number of brethren, particularly younger ones attended an organised district festival where there was public entertainment in which some of our young brothers (up to 20 years old) participated, singing and dancing on stage with worldly girls.  I was told that one young brother was detained for some time by the police for harassing young women.  The extent of what took place was obviously kept from Mr Hales, as after the word, he immediately came over to me to ask what happened.

The fact is Bruce was furious because concern was expressed publicly about the worldly conduct in which his own family had a leading part, and has done his utmost to find or fabricate some reason to get me out of the way.  Searching for imagined evil has entered into it and he resorts to bluff to get brethren to believe what he wants them told.  Unfortunately many have been so mesmerised that they think he can’t possibly do any wrong.

I am convinced that pride and the love of prominence is at the root of his trouble.  He once said to me, after Mr Hales matters were put right in the assembly, “The Hales name has been dirt for a number of years, but it is going to be different now”.  A strange statement to make which I have never forgotten, but it shows his thinking.

We love the truth, and the brethren and are grieved that the brethren, being generally submissive, have many times been forced to accept testimony brought to the assembly which has been untrue and biased – persons being made the issue, not the truth.  This has occurred often in this city over the years, springing from strong personal feelings and predjudices, with the readiness to condemn certain persons rather than serve them by love.

What patience the Lord has shown, what boundless grace despite the tendancy to allow history to repeat itself in almost every generation.

We pray that we may be kept humble and contrite to provide a basis for the Lord to come in and grant deliverance and recovery to the full level of the truth.

Bob Thorncroft


BDH House – The house of a humble man?

BDH house – This is the house recently acquired by Bruce Hales, leader of the PBCC or Exclusive Brethren. Costing AU$1.75 million for the house that was on the land, the house was completely rebuilt at the cost of his trodden-under-foot followers’ weekly contributions at their holiest of meetings, the equivalent of Holy Communion, the Supper. An estimated AU$500k-AU$750k was then spent on the rebuild and not only that, the properties around the house were also purchased on his whims allegedly for guest use. The house is rumoured to have as much space below ground as above in a desperate attempt for privacy for the leader of abusive Cult the PBCC – Plymouth Brethren Christian Church. A different take on being a simple Christian leader.

BDH House

The Exclusive Brethren House of Cards

I have been intrigued by a dialogue going on the Richard Stay site which highlights the very murky, strange doctrine that is printed and held sacrosanct by the Exclusive Brethren. And even more intriguing are the number of Brethren followers who post their views and comments there – which of course are devoid of any real debate or conviction – just a common loathing of all things us -i.e.  Opposers.  They love that fact that they can take a jab – anonymously. They love it that they can show their true colours and nobody knows who it really is.

The internet is now a big part of their day obviously. Now officially approved – they troll our websites looking for the opportunity to comment and denigrate -but conveniently forgetting that thousands were thrown out and families torn asunder for even typing a letter on a computer.  You cannot backpedal on a once mortal sin like computers  by now saying it is progress. It was the progress bit that they always fought against wasn’t it? More Brethren have been booted out because of ‘progress’ than anything else.

Bruce Hales’ ravings about the evil of computers and the net are there in print to be seen by all  -except he finally relented on himself  and exploited its full potential for his own business interests.  So that means his words are worthless. The anomalies and arguments do not hold water today. But try telling that to the fathers who haven’t seen their kids and grandkids for 20 years.

What it of course highlights is the strange way they ignore what their Men of God have said or done in the past -while flagging complete support for them unconditionally. Taylor’s ramblings for example prior to his demise were ridiculous! The ravings of either a madman or a drunk. His language deteriorated appallingly -which makes you wonder how he talked at home. Some say he was in fact an evil man in his closing days. The fact that he got into bed with a woman – another man’s wife  is strange enough.  But to try and justify it by saying he was laying in ambush is beyond belief. You can call him all the great men titles you like- his reasoning here was as ridiculous as it was untrue. There are a million ambushes you could have dreamed up to flush out any perceived element you imagined – that did not include getting into a bed with another man’s wife. But they prefer to cloud it in a veil of wisdom and awe. You can hear similar justifications from the many cult leaders who also liked to sleep with other mens wives.  They had a raft of wise sayings to justify their lust and greed. Still doesn’t make it right or acceptable by any standard does it?

But this is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the strange double standards of this mob. I mean – when I and thousands like me were thrown out on the street – we were told we were ‘dead’ and that we could never contact our families again. A few of us tested the dictum and had the door shut firmly in our faces. And when it upset us – we stopped.

But Hales has decreed that certain ex-Peebs are allowed to have regular visits and contact with their families. And they do. The rest of us cannot. Another strange double standard. We have seen Hales look after people that he knew in his own past – and extend the hand of friendship and support. But not to all those that they threw out. Just the ones he knew and remembers. An appalling anomaly! But more importantly- it goes against the reason they got rid of us in the first place.

Hales says that time is the thing here. He says that if it was 20 – 30 – 40 years ago – you should get over it.  Move on. Leave us alone. We got your family and your inheritance – go away. Except for a chosen few he dictates can have a foot in each camp and enjoy regular contact. I am one of those that believes that the forced loss of family is wide open to legal action. They like to say that sin destroys families – not them. But the majority of people I knew who were thrown out, committed no sin to justify such a life term and such a life changing, inhuman  loss.

Hales has even reversed  his take on people who are dying seeing their ‘withdrawn from’ relatives before they die.  Most never got this chance and resent it. Indeed when they covered their asses by finally telling us that a parent had died – they did so just before the funeral was to take place, leaving  little time to get there.  And if we did they turned their backs on us. What a bastardly act!

My point is that there is nothing concrete or honest about their dictums and rules. They are changed as they see fit. Hales needs computers for his business – he changes the hard and fast rules. Hales wants contact with relatives outside- he changes the rules for himself. Hales wants a few errant rellies to come back – he makes them an offer they cannot refuse. Hales wants to whitewash his family honour – he simply changes the record of their past. Most recently he whitewashed the behaviour of his aunt saying the church got it all wrong at the time. Everyone else’s aunts and uncles and children can get stuffed. Only his are able to be whitewashed and exonerated.

The biggest and most glaring anomaly surrounds Hales’ complete reversal of belief in what his predecessors said and did. While going on endlessly about their ‘greatness’ as ‘Men of God’ ,he ignores much of what they said as not being right today.

JT Jnr for example. According to Hales- he got it totally wrong. Commerce in the assembly is a good thing and is to be exploited for all it is worth. Symington’s ramblings about electronics and business devices are according to Hales – complete hogwash! If they aren’t- why is it that Symington’s rules have now been totally ignored and overridden by Hales? Symington threw Hales’ father out twice. Bruce says he got it wrong. So that makes Symington wrong doesn’t it? You can’t have it both ways. These men are either wrong or right. There is no in between Mister Hales. If there are degrees of wrong – then what the hell are we all doing out here?

The whole thing has become a bunch of lies. A world of half truths and self serving reflex actions.  If a thing is not consistent – it cannot be right. If you have rules that change people’s lives- then stick by them. Don’t bend them to suit yourself.

It’s called credibility Mister Hales. And without it you have nothing. And your house of cards will come tumbling down.

The Fairfield Kid, remember me?

Exclusive Brethren Hypocrisy

I refuse to call the Exclusive Brethren by their deceitful new handle of Plymouth Brethren Christian Church. They are the Exclusive Brethren and have been since 1959.

Their leader Bruce Hales can’t work it out why we ‘opposers’ as they call us – the people whom they have dealt with badly and in many cases wrongly – can’t ‘get over it’ and move on. Why we can’t just leave them alone.

I’ll tell you why. Because they are offensive. They are dishonest and they hurt people. They wreck families, they take money that isn’t theirs to take and then they tell lies about their actions. So some of us feel an anger and obligation to fight back.

Their website is a barrage of lies put together with the help of spin doctors to show them as something they are not. To a politician it all looks innocent enough but to those of us who were in it – it is so offensive to show happy families frolicking at seaside locations and flying kites and the like when you know damn well that a handful of years ago- they were wrecking families for going anywhere near a beach.

They would have you believe -if you read their website that they are the milk of human kindness -rushing from one disaster site to the next -desperate for attention and praise. Indeed they are so desperate- that when the world is not forthcoming with strident accolades for their good works they write their own testimonials on the website. Trust me- you can tell it is them because they run out of superlatives when they talk about themselves and they cannot spell due to their extremely dodgy education system.

Try this lot – which is every entry in the feedback, following their attendance with sandwiches, at a local fire scene in Britain:

Once again, the RRT bring in some comfort to a stressful situation.
Well done!

Thank goodness that this Rapid Relief Team is there and to think that noone (sic) has known about it for so long. Now perhaps we can all pray for all those that help and serve so willingly. I am sure they will need it. You can tell that firemen and policemen sure are glad of you all.

Excellent work – you’re a great team!

To be ready to help out at a moment’s notice is truly unselfish.
Keep at the good work

Incredible – I was on the scene for a while and was able to witness the excellant, (sic) unselfish service provided, many thanks and keep it up.

Wow! Once again, you are there to serve as and when you’re needed. keep up the good work! We need you!

We need you indeed! Well tell me this then. Why is it that these people who are so desperate to help the fire brigade and the police and the supposedly downtrodden, treat their own so badly. Why have they wrecked thousands of families and caused so much anguish in the lives of people who used to be members of their cruel misguided sect?

Why did the Exclusive Brethren throw children out onto the street with no means of support? They will tell you that they don’t do this today – but trust me when I say they did. They couldn’t care less a few years ago. If you didn’t see eye to eye with them as a teenager- they slung you onto the street with the clothes you were wearing and nothing else. They did it to me. Couldn’t have cared less if I lived or died. I have trouble describing my feelings and confusion at that time. It was cataclysmic. The sense of loss is something that has lost none of its shock many years later. I was not alone. I knew many kids at the time who suffered the same treatment. Then they gave us the vilest of brands in Brethren terms – ‘Opposers’

Something like that in your life never leaves you. You don’t lose your family for life along with everything else and just ‘move on’. It hangs over you like a pall.

Predictably enough, the current world leader has rounded up the errant members of his own family and brought them all back with fat salaries and places to live – but thumbs his nose at everyone else. They don’t matter.

Long live the opposers I say. They remember the truth about this evil sect of people. And their vile actions.

If you want to know the truth about the Exclusive Brethren -don’t ask them or read their websites – which are designed to deceive and to mask the real truth. They deal in fiction.

Ask someone whom they has suffered from their inhumanity and who knows what it means to be on the receiving end of their vile brand of religion.

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Peebs in the House of Lords

On Thursday 16th May -Robert Halfon took up the deceitful cause of the Exclusive Brethren yet again – but his passion is flawed because he can’t even get  their name right.
“Does my Hon. friend agree that the Christian Brethren, who carry out many charitable acts that benefit the public, have been discriminated against by the Charities Commission, which has significant implications for religious freedom? They have been refused charitable status and that has resulted in a lengthy appeals process. Does this not have wider implications for other faith groups?”

Let me answer the question more emphatically than those in the House did – and could.

For a start Honorable member- the group you claim have been ‘discriminated against’ are now called the Plymouth Christian Brethren- but have been known as the Exclusive Brethren up until the end of last year. So let’s at least get their name right lest we victimise some other ‘faith group’ – like the real Plymouth Brethren, whom they broke away from over 150 years ago.

Their charitable acts, Hon. Gentlemen, are a PR stunt – designed to confuse you.  They have done nothing even remotely charitable for over 50 years – until this hornet’s nest was stirred up by the C.C. when they sought more information on the true nature of this sect.

It should have implications for other ‘faith groups’ -because every church has to be transparent in its operations and real social charter. It certainly does not affect those that have operated effectively and helped mankind for as long as they have been in existence.

Might I suggest to the Honorable Robert Halfon that he attend Communion at his nearest Exclusive Brethren hall. Like he can with most ‘faith groups.” The Exclusive Brethren won’t let him in the door! Better still – take some of your Honourable friends with you so they can see too.

I would also point out the Honorable Gentlemen that not all ‘faith groups’ are good. Some are evil and cruel. Take the ‘innocent’ religious endeavours of the ‘faith groups’ led by the Rev Jim Jones and the Man of God David Koresh -who changed his name from Vernon Howell because he was a direct descendant of King David, in much the same way as the Brethren’s leaders are a continuation of the Pauline line (as in Saint Paul).

Both of these ‘faith groups’ were separatist – like the Brethren – they also garnered their followers assets and cash resources, they closed themselves off from the world and they wrote their own set of stringent rules for their followers. And their collapse -because a politician or two did have the wisdom  to ask some questions and investigate them – resulted in the deaths of 985 people and generations of adversely affected families.

Not all ‘faith groups’ are good Minister. Some are bad and deserve the ‘discrimination’ and a ‘lengthy appeals process’.

Worse- Honourable Member – you insult every person who has been adversely affected by this group, by blindly supporting them without understanding the reality of their dishonesty and the damage they have done to so many.

If you knew this – and the facts are readily available to you – you might start pushing a more worthy barrow of support.

Which part of B-A-D don’t you get?

Some of the greatest miscarriages of justice and examples of human wickedness in the world have occurred because people closed their minds and would not listen to the truth. Then they say, when things become irrefutable- “We didn’t know”.
It is not different today with a very small pocket of British politicians who have been beguiled and had their ulterior motives preyed upon by the Exclusive Brethren. The blinkered Robert Halfon just doesn’t get it. Worse – he doesn’t even want to listen. Which makes me wonder -Why? Read the blog site of Clr Richard Stay, who is one of the most effective voices thousands of victims of the Exclusive Brethren have ever had. There are still politicians pushing the Brethren barrow so hard -you have to wonder why. I’m not suggesting anything untoward or illegal but it certainly beggars belief.
I refuse to call the Exclusive Brethren by their new name -Plymouth Christian Brethren -which was designed and imported a few short months ago to confuse people on their real identity, given the constant wave of exceptionally bad publicity they have justifiably attracted. They are still- the Exclusive Brethren – a cruel, misguided sect which treats people appallingly and expects the world to believe its spin and deceit. And worse- to help fund it.
This is the same bunch of people who today, through the power of the internet, would have you believe they are all happy families and contributing citizens -running on beaches and flying kites with their children and handing out sandwiches at various disaster sites, doing good for the world and leading exemplary lives through their testimony. And people in Government and on specialist committees are confused – because they continue to entertain them and to provide them favour.
Why would any Government support the Exclusive Brethren when these people work so hard to destroy the basic fabric of society?  The family unit.
Why do Governments give millions of pounds and dollars to a minority religious sect which states that it hates the world and is made to live separately from it? They use this funding to fund their separatist endeavours and to make the world (which they hate) help pay for their places of so called worship. They say they are entitled because they pay taxes.
Why do Governments throw millions at this Sect’s closed schools, which were established deliberately so that the Brethren children have no influences from outside of the sect and from other ‘worldly’ kids and so it can write its own strict curriculum which cuts out all of the things they don’t agree with, like evolution and the wholesale reading of novels? Novels are illegal in the Exclusive Brethren.
While on the subject of education- why do Governments help finance Brethren schools when the children have no prospect of a university education- as this is categorically banned by the church because Universities are ‘hot beds’ of social engineering? They say they don’t stop children from going to university. But they also say that if you do – you will lose your family and your place in their church. The current leader was told by his own father -that if he pursued a University education he would have no place at the family table.
Why do Governments even entertain debate from a sect that destroys families – something it has been doing for over 50 years?
Let us be clear here that these people do real damage. They inflict hurt everywhere they operate in the world. And they do it under the guise of religion.
From my own perspective, and I speak on behalf of thousands of people in exactly the same position as myself, let’s take the various days in the year that we as ex-Brethren just loathe. Forgetting milestones like birthdays and Christmas – even minor celebrations like Mother’s Day which occurred the other day makes me wince for the memories that flood back. Now I know that Mother’s Day is a commercial concoction -designed to sell flowers and greeting cards. But it is a day which slams home the fact that I don’t have a mother and have not had one since I was a teenager. I had one alright- but the Exclusive Brethren made damned sure I would never see her again. It rams my loss in my face as it does for every person who has been mistreated by this so-called Christian group and I am reminded of what I have lost at the hands of these people each and every year. I also have siblings that I never saw again.
Then there are those who were thrown out and lost their wives and children. Thousands of ex-Brethren today have no contact whatsoever with their own children. If they try to do so- they are thwarted at every turn. The Brethren have been known to move children around so that their parent/s cannot obtain access to them. While the parent/s are ‘under discipline’ they poison the children against them -telling them they are wicked people and to revile them at all costs.
These people may not be ‘of this world’ – but they sure know how to work it. They have used the legal system for decades to frustrate and send broke, parents who wanted their children back. And they win in some cases too! Even if they don’t win the case- which happens as well – the children are so poisoned against their parents that they never get them back. They win the case – but lose what they wanted in the first place. Their families.
And yet we have in Great Britain at the present time, a number of politicians and committee members who read their dishonest websites and glossy submissions and refuse to see the real, underlying evil of this group of people. Despite being told that there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Despite being told that what they are reading is rubbish designed to fool them. Despite hearing about broken families and closed churches and an underlying compulsory hatred for the world.
Ask us what you want to know – ask us about the facts- ask for more evidence and we will give it to you! There are thousands of people who suffer throughout their lives because of the losses inflicted on them by the Exclusive Brethren. Ask us about it!
What is it going to take to get Politicians and Charity Commissioners and Local Government Councilors -who can make a difference – to do the right thing?
Stop entertaining their requests! Stop handing them out concessions and money and take a stand against something that is evil and destroys people’s lives. Religion is supposed to be open to all and is intended to make better people who care about their fellow man.
The Exclusive Brethren are as evil as any dubious, minority sect, in that they are not for the greater good – but their own ends only. They run their church as a business which benefits greatly the people who run it. They run roughshod over people and have done so for decades. They ignore the children among them who have been sexually molested. They welcome pedophiles back with open arms after they have served their prison sentences -but don’t give a fig about the damage inflicted on their victims.
Their phony website is full of warm fuzzy imagery. Parents running about with happy children in seaside locations. I can introduce you to a family who was thrown out because someone thought they saw them having a picnic on a remote beach. I can show their ministry which is full of rules about where they can go and can’t go. There are volumes of rules. A thousand pages of them. And none of them allows running on beaches and jetties and simply having fun. It is deceit -aimed fairly and squarely at people they want favour from. It is designed to deceive.
These people are responsible for many deaths by suicide. They are responsible for an enormous amount of mental illness. They are responsible for destroying so many people and thousands of families. And Governments, for some inexplicable reason, continue to support them despite all of the evidence against them being readily available.
Stop supporting them NOW! Ask for the truth and ask for the evidence and it will be provided.